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> Potassium Permanganate (pp) Dip, The Ultimate Kill-Them-All External Treatment
Round Head
post Mar 29 2009, 12:30 PM
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Warning!!!!
This is a very dangerous and potent treatment for your fish. It can KILL your fish.
PP is a power oxidant and will kill any simple organisms on the fish from fungus, bacteria, flukes, worms, etc...
And it will also remove the slime coat completely from the fish.
I suggest using the PP dip as the last resort.

Here is how I use PP and I am sure there are other ways to do it as well.

1. Make sure the tank in which the fish is kept in is super dupper clean. Either he is kept in the hospital tank or his permanent home, the water and filtration needs to be clean. I recommend a big 50% water change the night before. Add 1 tablespoon of salt per gallon or anywhere between half to 1 cup of salt per 10 gallon.
2. Use 2 containers that are big enough and deep enough for you to net the fish and dip his entire body in.
3. Siphon out the water from the tank into these 2 containers.
4. For one container add some PP into this dip container and stir. Using a regular small drinking glass, you will need to routinely collect this solution and examming it. You want the solution to be deep blue in color with about 3-4 inch of visibility. That means you can barely see your fingers or anything on the other side of the drinking glass of PP when held up.
5. Having the two containers side by side, you are now ready to for the treatment.
6. Net your fish and dip him into the PP solution. Keep him in the solution for 15 seconds. Then take him out and dip him into the water container and let him rest for 15 seconds.
7. Same procedure but this time dip for 30 seconds and rest for 15 seconds.
8. Same procedure but this time dip for 45 seconds and rest for 15 seconds.
9. Last dip but this time dip for 1 minute and put him directly back into the tank.

Alot of people do a 2 days treatment but I feel 1 treatment is enough.
One place you can get PP is from Sears where they sell chemicals for well water and water filtration supplies.

I also like to add.
Most people will use the PP treatment on wild fish.
And some people will use the PP treatment on newly received fish from an untrusted source.
To use this treatment on a dying fish or a fish with prolong ailment is a sure death for the fish.
So please be careful and make your best judgement before you attempt this treatment.

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post Mar 29 2009, 01:14 PM
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'Wardley Aqua Klean'... can be used directly in tank. Inexpensive, unless your tank has high levels of organics, premixed, extremely effective.


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post Mar 29 2009, 06:08 PM
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Really nice info Lane
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post Mar 29 2009, 06:46 PM
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I get this stuff by the pound. My mom works for the water company so I get it whenever needed. So far I only use it on plants before I put them into a tank. Snails and other harmful hitch hikers are easily removed by this stuff!


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post Mar 29 2009, 06:48 PM
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Great info thank_you.gif
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post Mar 30 2009, 12:13 AM
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This method of external parasite and external disease control is not new.
Koi, Discus, and plant hobbiest have used PP along time ago.
FH were the hardiest fish when they first came out because they were hybrids and had excess hybrid vigor.
Now it seems the FH had gone through alot of inbreeding and sometimes with bad selectivity.
People may breed for KOK only and neglect the small things such as vitality and immune strength.
So it seems like some of our fish are now getting more susceptible to alot of illnesses and mysterious diseases.
Just a thought.


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post Mar 30 2009, 10:45 AM
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Great stuff. Pinned it. Thanks Doc.


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to know more about this stuff go to any koi site big resource on pp i also own koi fish and been using this method for very long time .....when treating your fh or kamfa you can put it a sleep by using clove of oil easier to handle the fish .also when fh has any ulcer or infected area you can apply directly to area and let pp disappear before repeating .when using this stuff you want to have glove lantex or plastic may stain hand for very long amount of time ,can also cause cancer . like round head says last resort with experience only ........
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post Nov 15 2009, 09:49 PM
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Cool, ill come back to this when my fish are sick
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