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Sep 10 2008, 01:49 PM
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![]() Shi Fu ![]() Group: Forum Moderators Posts: 3,268 Joined: 27-October 07 From: ypsilanti, Michigan Member No.: 74 Country :
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I was curious on how to tell if a photo has been enchanced or photoshopped, so I did a little research. I'm sure others here know some good tips also. I have heard there are programs that you can buy that will show what type of camera was used, if picture was photoshopped, etc. but can't find it.
Lets all share our knowledge so we can spot the "fakes", and make sure WYSIWYG is really WYSIWYG!!! Here is some information I found so far: http://www.ists.dartmouth.edu/library/315.pdf http://www.slate.com/id/2191199/ -------------------- [A minute ago] teta_head_fish: isuck
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Sep 13 2008, 09:38 PM
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![]() Kamfa ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 465 Joined: 25-October 07 From: socal Member No.: 42 Country :
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i really hate people that photoshop pics for the business...
just destroys the reputation and fulled with lies and phony enhancements thx for the info -------------------- ![]() |
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Sep 13 2008, 09:41 PM
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![]() Shi Fu ![]() Group: Forum Moderators Posts: 3,268 Joined: 27-October 07 From: ypsilanti, Michigan Member No.: 74 Country :
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well if we can all learn to spot the "fakes" or retouched photos it will help us buyers a great deal IMO. Everyone should just hire Micki, Nelson Z, or blue ice (among others) to take their pictures. There are some great photographers out there that take great pictures without using photoshop.
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Sep 13 2008, 09:43 PM
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![]() Golden Monkey ![]() Group: Forum Moderators Posts: 757 Joined: 1-November 07 From: des moines, iowa Member No.: 99 Country :
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in order to be a great photographers...first u need a very very $ camera...thats pretty much all u need ..hehe
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Sep 13 2008, 09:46 PM
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![]() Shi Fu ![]() Group: Forum Moderators Posts: 3,268 Joined: 27-October 07 From: ypsilanti, Michigan Member No.: 74 Country :
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it helps, but you need skillz too i think Leng.
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Sep 14 2008, 01:13 AM
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![]() King Kamfa ![]() Group: Forum Moderators Posts: 1,375 Joined: 30-December 07 From: northern ca.(esparto) Member No.: 180 Country :
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ya micki has over 4 gs in his stuff.....to rich for me...but one day ya never know
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Sep 14 2008, 03:27 AM
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![]() Kamalau ![]() Group: Administrators Posts: 530 Joined: 22-March 08 From: Ohio Grown Member No.: 400 Country :
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if you open a questionable photo within photoshop. that said photo can easily be determined if it was altered by means of either checking color levels or other adjustments contained within photoshop. any experienced user of photoshop can tell.
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Sep 14 2008, 07:12 AM
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![]() King Kamfa ![]() Group: Chingmix Staff Posts: 1,286 Joined: 24-October 07 From: guam Member No.: 8 Country :
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Hmm... it very hard to see if a picture is color accurate to natural colors.
Lets see this piece. would this Kenzo be considered photoshop? and why and why not? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Sep 14 2008, 10:15 AM
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Kamalau ![]() Group: Forum Moderators Posts: 679 Joined: 20-December 07 From: BayArea, Ca. Member No.: 174 Country :
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Hmm... it very hard to see if a picture is color accurate to natural colors. Lets see this piece. would this Kenzo be considered photoshop? and why and why not? ![]() well this is the info tor this pic!! [Image] Make = NIKON CORPORATION Model = NIKON D70s Orientation = top/left X Resolution = 0.03 Y Resolution = 0.03 Resolution Unit = inch Software = Adobe Photoshop CS3 Macintosh Date Time = 2008-09-02 16:49:09 YCbCr Positioning = co-sited Exif IFD Pointer = Offset: 232 [Camera] Exposure Time = 1/125" F Number = F5.6 Exposure Program = Not defined Exif Version = Version 2.21 Date Time Original = 2008-08-27 18:45:27 Date Time Digitized = 2008-08-27 18:45:27 Components Configuration = YCbcr Compressed Bits Per Pixel = 2 Exposure Bias Value = ±0EV Max Aperture Value = F4.44 Metering Mode = Pattern Light Source = unknown Flash = Off Focal Length = 70mm User Comment = Subsec Time = 0.80" Subsec Time Original = 0.80" Subsec Time Digitized = 0.80" Flashpix Version = Version 1.0 Color Space = sRGB Exif Image Width = 730 Exif Image Height = 485 Interoperability IFD Pointer = Offset: 844 Sensing Method = One-chip color area sensor File Source = DSC Scene Type = A directly photographed image CFA Pattern = [B,G], [G,R] Custom Rendered = Normal process Exposure Mode = Auto exposure White Balance = Auto white balance Digital Zoom Ratio = 1x Focal Length In 35mm Film = 105mm Scene Capture Type = Normal Gain Control = Low gain up Contrast = Normal Saturation = Normal Sharpness = Normal Subject Distance Range = unknown [Interoperability] Interoperability Index = ExifR98 Interoperability Version = Version 1.0 [Thumbnail Info] Compression = JPEG Compressed (Thumbnail) X Resolution = 300 Y Resolution = 300 Resolution Unit = inch JPEG Interchange Format = Offset: 970 JPEG Interchange Format Length = Length: 5022 [Thumbnail] Thumbnail = 160 x 106 hope that help!! -------------------- ![]() |
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Sep 14 2008, 11:06 AM
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![]() Shi Fu ![]() Group: Forum Moderators Posts: 3,268 Joined: 27-October 07 From: ypsilanti, Michigan Member No.: 74 Country :
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very interesting
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Sep 14 2008, 11:57 AM
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![]() Hua Luo Han ![]() Group: Root Admin Posts: 2,860 Joined: 28-October 07 From: Escondido, Ca Member No.: 77 Country :
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This is the EXIF (Exchangeable image file format ) data which is embeded by most digital camera, you can use a basic EXIF reader http://www.snapfiles.com/get/exifreader.html
Read up more on EXIF http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exchangeable_image_file_format -------------------- |
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Sep 14 2008, 12:05 PM
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![]() Golden Monkey ![]() Group: Senior Members Posts: 786 Joined: 26-October 07 From: Bay Area Member No.: 59 Country :
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can I borrow your pic James?
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Sep 14 2008, 12:10 PM
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![]() Indonesia Louhan Club ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Community Sellers Posts: 1,648 Joined: 25-October 07 From: Jakarta-Indonesia Member No.: 17 Country :
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well this is the info tor this pic!! [Image] Make = NIKON CORPORATION Model = NIKON D70s Orientation = top/left X Resolution = 0.03 Y Resolution = 0.03 Resolution Unit = inch Software = Adobe Photoshop CS3 Macintosh Date Time = 2008-09-02 16:49:09 YCbCr Positioning = co-sited Exif IFD Pointer = Offset: 232 [Camera] Exposure Time = 1/125" F Number = F5.6 Exposure Program = Not defined Exif Version = Version 2.21 Date Time Original = 2008-08-27 18:45:27 Date Time Digitized = 2008-08-27 18:45:27 Components Configuration = YCbcr Compressed Bits Per Pixel = 2 Exposure Bias Value = ±0EV Max Aperture Value = F4.44 Metering Mode = Pattern Light Source = unknown Flash = Off Focal Length = 70mm User Comment = Subsec Time = 0.80" Subsec Time Original = 0.80" Subsec Time Digitized = 0.80" Flashpix Version = Version 1.0 Color Space = sRGB Exif Image Width = 730 Exif Image Height = 485 Interoperability IFD Pointer = Offset: 844 Sensing Method = One-chip color area sensor File Source = DSC Scene Type = A directly photographed image CFA Pattern = [B,G], [G,R] Custom Rendered = Normal process Exposure Mode = Auto exposure White Balance = Auto white balance Digital Zoom Ratio = 1x Focal Length In 35mm Film = 105mm Scene Capture Type = Normal Gain Control = Low gain up Contrast = Normal Saturation = Normal Sharpness = Normal Subject Distance Range = unknown [Interoperability] Interoperability Index = ExifR98 Interoperability Version = Version 1.0 [Thumbnail Info] Compression = JPEG Compressed (Thumbnail) X Resolution = 300 Y Resolution = 300 Resolution Unit = inch JPEG Interchange Format = Offset: 970 JPEG Interchange Format Length = Length: 5022 [Thumbnail] Thumbnail = 160 x 106 hope that help!! -------------------- "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams"
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Sep 14 2008, 01:19 PM
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![]() Golden Monkey ![]() Group: Dynamic Team Posts: 991 Joined: 24-October 07 From: New Jersey Member No.: 14 |
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Sep 14 2008, 02:13 PM
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![]() Golden Monkey ![]() Group: Senior Members Posts: 786 Joined: 26-October 07 From: Bay Area Member No.: 59 Country :
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I spent 10 second to do that, of course I can make it more real
This is how you get info of the picture: download the pix to your PC, right click at the picture choose properties ; summary, advance then you will see all the info of that picture. There is still ways to hide the info if they want to.... -------------------- |
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Sep 14 2008, 06:22 PM
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![]() King Kamfa ![]() Group: Chingmix Staff Posts: 1,286 Joined: 24-October 07 From: guam Member No.: 8 Country :
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can I borrow your pic James? Before ![]() after ![]() are you talking about a photoshop work like this? kok enhancements color red enhancement color orange enhancement would you be fooled?
This post has been edited by james: Sep 14 2008, 06:31 PM -------------------- To order Chingmix email sales@chingmixusa.com
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Sep 14 2008, 07:26 PM
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![]() Shi Fu ![]() Group: Forum Moderators Posts: 3,268 Joined: 27-October 07 From: ypsilanti, Michigan Member No.: 74 Country :
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LOL we should have a photoshop POTM!!!!
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Sep 15 2008, 01:03 AM
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![]() Kamfa ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 465 Joined: 25-October 07 From: socal Member No.: 42 Country :
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ok i want you guys see the the results ive made
just look at the blurry ends round the fins due to the movements of the fish and the kok doesnt show it like as if the fish wasnt in motion at all on the phototshoped one
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Sep 15 2008, 01:11 AM
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![]() Hua Luo Han ![]() Group: Root Admin Posts: 2,860 Joined: 28-October 07 From: Escondido, Ca Member No.: 77 Country :
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ok i want you guys see the the results ive made just look at the blurry ends round the fins due to the movements of the fish and the kok doesnt show it like as if the fish wasnt in motion at all on the phototshoped one Thats due to the nature of the edge of new growth fins being semi transparent plus having used the sharpen filter will cause harsh outlines of defined foundries. -------------------- |
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Sep 15 2008, 01:12 AM
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![]() Kamfa ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 465 Joined: 25-October 07 From: socal Member No.: 42 Country :
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and here is very weird about the enchanced pic is especialy the light seems to be in all in diffrent direction while the original is only in the top
and who in the world would have lights all over the tank when it should be at the top and it could be the flash form the camera but at least a part of the body of the fish should at least leave a little light reflection on it.. -------------------- ![]() |
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