My fish laid eggs over the weekend, Im not sure if the male had fertilized the eggs or not..
Most are yellow/clear in color and some are pale white.

How do I know if the eggs are fertilized?

I didn't remove the eggs and I guess both male/females ate them all.

For future refrence, how can I tell if the eggs are fertilized and Should/can
I remove the eggs to another aquarium?

Thanks for anyone's comments/help.

From the eyes of just fish keeping hobbyists, you don't know unless you were there to see it. When the process is all done, eggs will still look like eggs for that time frame until they turn into wigglers or rot away. At least that's what I know from just my experience.
It's always a good sign to assume when they show breeding colors and behavior from the beginning of the breeding, then after eggs, they both defend the eggs. But it can also happen that the male does try to fertilize but he doesn't do a good job or he's not fertile.

But in your case, I don't think he did. If they ate the eggs, then that means they did not get together to make something happen so the eggs mean nothing and they ate it. Maybe they're too young to understand what to do.

Good luck next time.

IME if they are not fertilized they will turn white within a day. If they stay brownish colored, it's a good sign. On about the 3rd day you will see 2 dots, then you know they are fertilized for sure. They should hatch the day after you see the dots (eyes). Best of luck buddy, update us on your project. Hope things work out for you.

if the eggs turn white..its no good

I agree with Joe (Vittleking)... But in my case some went white the same day (not fertilized) and some stayed the brownish color.. I noticed the dots (eyes) after 1 day of them being laid and then hatched the very next day!

I don't remove the eggs, I just remove the parents from the tank and use a powerhead above the plate to keep the water circulating above the eggs so that nothing settles on them to allow fungus to grow.. there is something u can put into the tank to prevent fungus growth, but i find the powerhead is an effective way of keep the eggs fungus free!

Good luck on your next batch and i hope your male is fertile!

Tina

You hear ppl say the dots are eyes balls. That gets passed around and make everyone believe they are eyes. That's very wrong. They are not eyes. That is one false info you picked up from someone who assumed that.

Well what else would it be... the only thing black on the when they hatch is the eyes...

So what are the dots then... I assumed they were eyes...

They are eyes dude... :-) I have had experience with my convicts... :-)

Thanks for everyone's comments..
I'm going to keep a look-out for 'Black dots'/eyes'
next time the female lay eggs again.. :)

I wish I had a good camera to catch the eggs as they form. The black dot start out as a sign of of life in the eggs but does not mean eyes. You hear that all the time but it's not true.
You see the black dot, then you'll have a tail and head start to form away from the black dot. Then the black starts to fade off and change to peachy color as they call it yolk. Then the eyes form from the head! If you can not see the head as they were eggs, how can you see the eyes? You guys don't see big O eyes as big or bigger then the black dots from the wigglers as they start to swim do you?

From observing my eggs hatched a few times, I can not say those are eye balls. Before, I thought they were because I heard so too, but after some breedings and observing them form, I can not agree with that anymore.

If you ask me what it is, I would say it's a scientific mystery. But my scientific guess would be that the black is a color of life forming/building at the stomach to start everything off. So microscopic we can not see it happening in that black dot.

But from watching the eggs form, I can tell they are not eyes. Where are all the breeders at? Am I the only one with eyes that can see the eggs clearly from eggs to fries?

For the dummy who don't know what they are talking about

if you see 1 dot, it is not an eye

eyes do come in pairs no?

So what do you see in this picture?

First of all.. WATCH YOUR MOUTH... DO NOT call ppl a dummy all because they think that black dots in eggs are eyes.... You could be nice about it. I thought they were yeys so u are OBVIOUSLY calling me a dummy?

Let this be a warning to you..that will not be tolerated.

Thank you for sharing your picture but you need a change of attitude my friend.BTW.. i do see 2 dots.. it might be my eyes but i do see 2 dots in a couple of them.

This post has been edited by christina: Oct 12 2008, 11:06 AM

so mr Stockton209..... if i see 1 dot...it is not his eye???? well it surely cant be his ass??? maybe its his belly button?? umm... wat else have black dot???

He's not addressing you Christina. He's Addressing me. Out of no where he's a hater and calls me dumb. Wow. That means he must be smart. I hope not all Vietnamese PPL are way..

And is that picture even real? lol.
If they are eggs, why do they smear or spread as the eggs develope?

Don't hate me because I tell you what I see Stcockton. Did you take that picture yourself? Is that your picture?

I will still ask around to know what the black dots really are. I still do not agree they are eyes.

btw.

Those don't look like real eggs. Is that how sharp and defined the eyes of the eggs look like everytime you breed FHs? You wanna be sure about things before you call someone dumb professor. Have you ever bred any FHs at all? I bet you did not breed and took those pictures yourself. Lol! Not even real eggs pictures. If they are real, they are not flowerhorn eggs.

Since I believe in my own eyes but at the same time, unsure. I did a search. And I strongly believe this is how the morphing goes. It's exactly how I see my eggs developed.

Link: http://www.aquarticles.com/articles/breedi...evelopment.html

I don't get your point though.

For Stockton, In the picture of the fake eggs, they look exactly how eyes look like. But when do you ever see eggs look like that? Look how clear and bright the eyes are. lol! At least Im not dumb enough to believe in this picture and bring it here to call another a dummy. haha!!

Maybe in other fishes eggs, the black dots can be eye balls. But I do not believe that for FHs. Check the link I provided. It shows exactly how I see the eggs.

flowerhorn eggs are very very tiny.... sometime u dont need to see 2 dots as long as u see dot...thats an eye

The black on the eggs are not defined sharp dots. They get smeared out as the eggs develope. How can they be eyes? Check this link. The eggs are cichlid eggs. http://www.aquarticles.com/articles/breedi...evelopment.html

Look at this picture and tell me where the eyes are and what the black is.

the pic u post ...


This larvae hatched only a few hrs ago. The eyes are undeveloped and the body contours are still transparent. The yolk sack is still has its original egg size.


well..this what flowerhorn fertilized eggs look like



i hope that answer ur question